Wednesday, June 16, 2010

Angelina Jolie as Cleopatra?! Hollywood...and White Audiences...don't change


Read Talia White's column in MSNBC's The Grio (and check my columns as well, fanboys & girls) then come back here.


Didn't the BBC do an investigation (in conjunction with Discovery) showing that through bone and DNA analysis (on her little sister Arsinoe--pronounced R-SIN-OH-WAY, and depicted in art with major plaited black braids of her own hair) this woman was more African than Ptolemy/Greek?


Note to you history-challenged jerks: Alexander the Great first severed Egypt from the Persian Empire (modern day Iran)...hence we have Alexandria. When he died, one of his best buds, the general Ptolemy, took Egypt as his little prize and made Alexandria his capital (and a repository of ancient art & technology while white folks were painting themselves with bull dung). Hence from that moment till the destruction of the dynasty by the Romans under Augustus, all Pharoahs were at least part Greek. That part diminished to a trickle. And far from being an exotic courtesan [which one would think would thus drive tools in Hollywood to pick someone who's maybe a Latina or with a "Middle Eastern/South Asian look" because that's the "type" cineplex suburban Americans expect] Cleo even as a teenager spoke 4 languages, was a mathmetician, poetess/comedienne and studied diplomacy from materials in the Great Library. She was a more a nerdy chick with a nice sex drive and a lot of ambition, not a scheming ho. But alas, most of that scheming involved killing a lot of folks, and it changed the course of Rome's, thus our, history...


Two years ago, archeologists found the body of Arsinoe (whom she had assassins kill once her old lover Julius Caesar died) and did the forensics. It works the same why as when they do a work up on your sibling, or parents' bodies to determine who/what the heck you are. And unless a Viking had an affair with Cleo's momma, the results and anecdotal/historical Roman (i.e. Plutarch) and Egyptian accounts should be conclusive.

But that don't bother Hollywood none. Somebody has to market to Red State morons...and go with brand names to ensure some semblence of a box office take. But that, interestingly, isn't the most cynical aspect to this. Like Liz Taylor et al...isn't Angelina...or Halle or any other black actress mentioned...too OLD? When Cleo met Caesar she was 16. She died at age 30, maybe? The closest to a decent and accurate rendering was HBO's Rome (more a precusor to Starz's Spartacus: Blood & Sand than 300). The chick still had a little too much Avril Lavigne in her, but also it was clear there was some sistah as well.

So let's stop the bullsh^t. I hear white people whining about Don Glover trying to be cast as Spider Man/Peter Parker, or huffing "Then let Spike Lee make the movie." That's not the point. The point is that Hollywood, as a weird carnie mirror to our society, has been doing the opposite to people of color for decades...indeed, since D.W. Griffith delighted audiences in 1915 by having white actors smeared on blackface to play the treacherous, rapacious, presumptuous, arrogant, not-knowing-their-place mulattoes of Birth of A Nation. Damn, those adjectives sound like Obama, don't it, Rand and Sarah? Guess we should get Fred Armisen in the film version?

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Part 1 of 2

Firstly contrary to your matter of fact statement, Cleopatra's sister Arsinoe IV has not been found. The facts are that tomb found in Turkey and the remains in them have been claimed by a research team to possibly be Arsinoe. Unfortunately for the team, there is absolutely no direct evidence linking the tomb to Arsinoe, there are no inscriptions in the tomb identify whose tomb it is nor do historical records link Asrinoe to the tomb. Even though Arsinoe was killed in Ephesus, when don't if she buried there or whether her body was returned to Egypt for burial. The entire argument for it being her tomb rests on its location, the time frame of its construction, some rather weak claims about certain design elements in the tomb seeming of Egyptian influence, and lastly they claim the young woman's remains correspond to the right age Arsinoe would have been when she died. Once again evidence is not on this theories side, archaeological evidence from test pits around the tomb seems to date its construction to some twenty years after Arsinoe's murder and the age range of the female skeleton from the tomb seems too young to be Arsinoe. Now it should be noted that Arsinoe's birth date is not known for sure, though based on her actions in life, most historians believe her to have been in her mid to late twenties when she died. The remains in the tomb are from a girl in her mid to late teens.

Also it should be said that DNA test were carried out on the remains, the published report by the team states that they were unable to get any viable samples for testing due to the condition of the genetic material extracted from the bones. So there is no DNA evidence indicating anything about the ancestry or ethnicity of the woman buried in the tomb.
Lastly, contrary to the claims made by some news outlets, their was no proven evidence of the woman having any African ancestry. If anyone had watched the BBC special from 2009 Cleopatra: Portrait of a Killer, they would have seen the physical anthropologist clearly state that based on the skull reconstruction, she looked very European. She only mentioned in a very speculative way the skull being long-headed could be a possible sign of African ancestry, as the trait is very common in Black African populations, but as it is also found in European populations, especially in Southern European peoples like the Greeks, so it comes across as being rather specious speculation. The worst part is that the actual skull has been lost since before WWII, the skull they used for the facial reconstruction was created from old photos and measurements from when the skull was first found.

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Part 2 of 2

Now to Cleopatra, the debate about her race is rather silly, all the available evidence about her and her family strongly argues that she was probably entirely or almost so of Greek Macedonian ancestry. Her family practiced incest marriages to preserve their Macedonian blood line and to keep non-Ptolemy pretenders off the throne of Egypt. The questions about Cleopatra's ancestry come from some uncertainty about her mother and paternal grandmother identities. While no one can say with absolute certainty who these women were, the top candidates are known members of the Ptolemy family, not unnamed Egyptian women. It should also be pointed out that the Ptolemy family practiced matrilineal descent; legitimacy in the family came from the mother. Your mother had to be of the Ptolemy blood line or you would not be a full legitimate member of the family, as there would always be a question about your true parentage. This makes the chances of Cleopatra's mother and grandmother not being members of the Ptolemy extremely unlikely. This combined with the Ptolemy's rather negative view of native Egyptians and Cleopatra's rather limited and inbred family tree, all argues against the likely hood that she had any significant native Egyptian ancestry, if any at all. Either way her only known and provable ancestry is Greek Macedonian. So Joli, a white actress, playing her is entirely acceptable as all available biographic data on Cleopatra indicates she was a white woman of Greek ancestry, though a Greek actress would be the most historically accurate choice for such a role.

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